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-- Edited by Patty at 05:47, 2006-06-30

i am sure kristina would llove to rip the bitch head's off Go Kristina you're the best and the real Nic's kid is only WESTON I doubt the asian pup  is nics

Huh ..you know I am thinking that Alice is a bad example for WESTON ! Nic should open his eyes and stop to play like if he is a teen-ager  goof dude !"

I wonder how many correlations there are with her and other things changing dramatically? 

Let's see: Nic's health got down to the scary point = medics on alert, Weston going goth, the economy in LA boutiques has grown 562%, the drinking age in LA dropped to 19 (oh wait, that was just for them).....

 

Yep, we can all ditto that!!!

I do agree with some of what you say, but Nicolas seems to be a good father at least from what I have heard and read.  I just think that people should be happy and I hope that he is, I wish happiness to everyone.

-- Edited by Patty at 02:48, 2006-06-26

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-- Edited by Patty at 04:29, 2006-08-14

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I can't ditto that.  You really think Nicholas should be selfish and do whatever meakes him happy?  I don't.  He is a grown man who has made his own decisions and makes his own messes which he has too live with.  But he has two children he has to raise and set some sort of example for.  A good parent puts there children first no matter what.  How many of you are parents?  Do you do what's best for them or do you do what you selfishly want and let your children pay the ultimate price? I've also heard that Weston has more maturity than his father and is fed up with Nicholas.  This I heard from a friend who lives in Los Angeles.  I know I'm new hear but I'm hear because I appreciate Nicholas's work.  Sorry if I got anyone upset.-- Edited by Wilderbeast at 00:52, 2006-06-26

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No, it's cool (at least as far as I'm concerned).  I don't have kids, but I do empathize with your point of view.  When you have children, you are essentially pushing aside a piece of yourself and putting them in its place.  Since I know nothing about Nicolas aside from what I've heard and read, I can only garner opinions from that.  He seems like a man who is always searching for something to make his life more complete, and has a lot of self-doubt about whether or not he can do it.  Sometimes (in my opinion) he chooses things that are not a good investment in the long run... but again, that's just the opinion of someone who not only doesn't know him, but doesn't know anyone who knows him (besides some of the ladies on this board).

As for Weston being furious with Nicolas, I've heard his brother Christopher is the same way... that he's supposedly "gone Hollywood" and is not the same person he once was, whatever that means.

 

I don't think it's a good idea to be a martyr and sacrifice your whole life for your kids.  I have 2 special needs kids, so I am all for doing things that make me happy.  If I'm happy, then I can be a good mom.  I've dropped a lot of friends, and some family, because they are "drainers" and that affects my health physically and emotionally - in turn affecting my kids.

I strive to give my kids what they need, but I learned the hard way to take care of myself first.  I can't take care of anyone if I'm dead and running myself to the grave is not being a responsible parent.

No one is saying that drinking or drugs is responsible or considered taking care of yourself just because they may make you happy for a bit, but being in a bad relationship or situation isn't smart.  Staying in it doesn't benefit the kids any.

I've said before I think Nic should concentrate more on being a hands on father, but if he needs a vacation he should go.  Rather that than the negative vibes coming off him to Kal and Weston!  His wife is a big girl now and can take care of herself.

I'm not saying that Nick should stay in a really bad marriage but if the marriage really isn't that bad and you have children to raise I think it is the adults responsibility to try there hardest to make the marriage work.  I think about poor Kal-el here.  If Nick is pulled in to many directions and doesn't cut back in other directions he may become that sickly looking zombie again.  Picture his life with me.  He has to make time for Weston on the weekends right?  If he gets divorced from Alice how will he fit in Kal-el as well on the weekends?  Can anyone imagine the resentment Weston may fell towards Kal-el?  I can.  And because we all know that Nick is a workaholic and he doesn't seem to be the type to give it all up to raise his kids, just exactly when will he see Kal-el grow up?  If Alice is a bad mother who does nothing but shop and let nannies raise her child exactly what will happen to Kal-el?  If Nick loves his little boy he has to put the boy first.  Nick wanted children.  Now he has them.  Just what he does with them and how they are raised is another story.  JMHO. 

pffff ...sorry , but I have weird feelings that that pup is not Nic's at all , it's a huge feeling ! ....and I am sure he have a daughter somewhere

-- Edited by Kimmy at 21:58, 2006-06-27

I think it is his child because he certainly has enough money to get the baby's blood tested if he wanted to. As far as weekends go, I doubt that Nicolas' schedule is like the normal father with weekend visits. He most likely sees Weston when he wants and as often as he can and if he ever divorced he could have the two children together, wouldn't he be doing that now anyway when he sees Weston?   Though, I am guessing that they have a good relationship and Nic does what he can to be a good dad. I read somewhere that when Nicolas was with Patricia Arquette that she said in an interview that Weston Always came first in his life. (by the way, Patricia Arquette got married a few days ago).  I don't see it as children getting a bad deal when parents divorce, as long as the parents both show and give love and attention to the children. I think its worse for children to live in a  home of parents that don't get along. But none of us really know if that is the case of Nicolas and Alice anyway.

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-- Edited by Patty at 08:11, 2006-07-05

The kids have lots of stuff, just not a lot of Nic's time.  Undivided attention is priceless for kids.

I do have to ask, how does anyone know that the kids don't have Nic's time? I am sure they do..  I have read that he even brought Weston many times to sets where he was even when out of the country. I have heard he is a good dad.  You don't have to be married to be a good dad. He wasn't married to Weston's mother and I read he always put Weston first.

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I do have to ask, how does anyone know that the kids don't have Nic's time? I am sure they do..  I have read that he even brought Weston many times to sets where he was even when out of the country. I have heard he is a good dad.  You don't have to be married to be a good dad. He wasn't married to Weston's mother and I read he always put Weston first.

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I've always heard he's a good dad too. He loves Weston. And Kristina is SURE he gets time with Dad. I haven't heard anything about Weston being fed up with Nic but it would make sense. Kristina is still FURIOUS about this latest marriage and it probably rubs off on Weston. He probably wonders what the hell Dad was thinking with. Hmmm. I wonder. That little head perhaps????